Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.30 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 28/10/2008 17:35:14 Reading over the Zulupark answer thread I came across the apart where he supports the idea of running lv 4 missions in Empire is to little reward for risk factor.
I disagree and thus invite my flaming....
It's not really so much about lv 4 mission or Empire. It really about low sec. Per cubic angstrom of space low sec is more dangerous then 0.0 by far. That's were pirates go, camp, and roam (pros and wanna-be's alike) more there then anywhere else. The idea of faction ships regularly parading into these areas to run missions with full faction fits is.... well not very realistic.
A CNR is actually surprising easy to kill, a raven more so. And these are the most common of mission ships. How would mission runners navigate this gambit? (The Empire-low sec choke points are always camped as it is)
Part of what makes Eve so awesome (and mind numbingly complex at times ) is its great diversity and need for specialization. people can spend there whole lives trading, mission running, manufacturing, mining AND/OR PVP combat (or all of the above if they desire). I happen to love both PVP and Trade. I don't know why its satisfying to post what I am selling in a chat window over and over and over again, it just is. I guess I am weird ) But that being said, allot of mission runners simply don't have skills in PVP. They don't know how to PVP, and they don't want to PVP.
The response to this will be "Learn..." and will generally be from a pirate. But even if you "learned" a mission fit is not and never will be a pvp fit. If you get caught you will be dead.
Mission hubs in High sec will get more lag cause more people would collect in them. The areas of low sec that have mission runners running lv 4 agents will be camped as much as the Ded space complexes are now but with pirates.
I can see no viable way to make an idea like this work. Are mission runners meant to be protected by a small fleet when they venture into a mission? Are they supposed to fit a cloak, or perhaps sacrifice mission fits for ones more viable in PVP? Either way you will still get pounced on by a gang that will be spending most of their time in eve looking for both you and people like you. And you will be venturing out into space repeatedly, over and over again, VIA a well know route.
That, very simply, is just not fair to the people who like running missions. I am saying this and I hate running missions. But I do have friends who do like running them.
I don't see how an idea like this could possibly work realistically
sigh.
1) Believe it or not, you don't need a perfect Q20 agent to run missions.
2) Some uberpros are able to run level 4 missions without a faction fit CNR
3) Your ship scanner ensures that, if you're paying attention, it's very easy to find the pirates and warp out before they find you.
4) Fight back against the pirates. Get together with people in your area and kick the **** out of people who try to pirate in your area. Problem solved.
If you want to sit in hisec and missiongrind, fine...but you shouldn't be making anywhere CLOSE to what you are making now.
nope. He should! Because eve economy needs that. But what needs to be done is make WORTH doign it in low sec.
There is a level of reward that will make some people move into low sec. because they are smart and wil notice thaat even loosing a ships once in a while they wil lstil make more than inhigh sec. (but this needs to be true, and its not now). I woudl say aroound 60 mil per hour (yes that much, because is way riskier than 0.0)
Some peopel will simply refuse to go. And thsoe you cannto change. And if you want to force them out its just easier to CCP to remove their accounts. Because they will not change. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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